It was a 10-committee day for Indiana’s General Assembly — and your favorite reporters!
That means 150 lawmakers dashing from room to room to hear testimony, explain bills, broker compromises. Lobbyists, residents and staff also fill up the halls.
Add in caffeine and sugar from the snack shack, and you’ve got a typical Wednesday at the Statehouse.
8:30 — Committees kick off
It’s an early start for the House Education Committee, with a fairly full House chamber. In what has become a weekly ritual, committee chairman Rep. Bob Behning, R-Indianapolis, has to ask Rep. Vernon Smith, D-Gary, to “Please, speak into your mic!” as others chuckle. It’s not uncommon for other lawmakers to rib the grandfatherly Smith over microphone bloopers.
The committee quickly settles into what would be an hours-long meeting to amend and vote out three bills, and hear testimony on two others.
8:45 — A fast start
The House Family, Children and Human Affairs Committee starts 15 minutes late but is quick to get through two bills already heard last week.
Senate Bill 498, on child services, passes 12-0. That prompts Rep. Elizabeth Rowray, R-Yorktown, to joke, “I just want to know if we are going to hold hands and sing kumbaya?”
But the consensus ends quickly, as Democrats oppose Senate Bill 463. It loosens child-staff ratios in licensed child care centers — mirroring laws in contiguous states instead.
Sen. Chris Garten, R-Charlestown, stays jovial, saying, “I’ve got a lot of friends who are Democrats.”
But Rep. Vanessa Summers, D-Indianapolis, says the ratios were previously tightened for a reason. She has served on the committee for much of her 34-year tenure.
“Our children were in danger,” she says. “When we did this, it wasn’t out of ignorance. It was out of need for the time and I can’t say that the time is better or worse than it was years ago.”
The meeting concludes within the hour, with members scattering to their other obligations.
9:20 — ‘Chairman Brad Barrett Day’
Richmond Republican Rep. Brad Barrett has three bills moving this session — and Sen. Ed Charbonneau, who chairs the Senate Health and Provider Services Committee, opts to hear all three at once.
Charbonneau, a Valparaiso Republican, dubs the hearing “Chairman Brad Barrett Day,” which coincides with National Spinach Day, according to lobbyist Matt Bell. But testimony on Barrett’s first proposal, the wide-ranging House Bill 1003, drags for hours.
10:30 — If you’re not early, you’re late!
Sen. Linda Rogers, R-Granger, kicks off the Senate Pensions and Labor Committee meeting promptly at 10:30 a.m. and adjourns it in less than three minutes — so quickly one member votes before he can even sit down.
Lawmakers have long sought to offer former public servants guaranteed annual benefit boosts, with earlier retirees getting 13th checks and more recent retirees racking up cost-of-living adjustments. That hybrid system’s onset would be delayed to 2029 under changes Rogers brought to House Bill 1221 Wednesday. All retirees would get 13th checks annually until then.
Committee members accept the edits by consent within the meeting’s first minute, and complete a unanimous vote before the third — despite a late arrival. The attorney calling the roll pauses as Sen. Rodney Pol, D-Chesterton, dumps a bag and other belongings on the table and leans down to the microphone to vote.
10:40 — Partisan shots taken in elections committee
This time, we’re the ones late to the party — too many meetings to cover, and not enough Capital Chronicle reporters! The House Elections and Apportionment Committee members are debating changes to Senate Bill 10, which would end the use of public college and university identification cards at the voting box.
Fifteen amendments are filed, but committee members spare us. They accept — along party lines — one detailed, Republican amendment altering voter list maintenance and data-sharing. And they defeat three Democratic amendments along the same margins before consenting to one considering consular reports of births abroad proof of U.S. citizenship. The bill is approved on a 9-4 vote.
Lawmakers move on. Senate Bill 137 — intended to block people with only temporary credentials from registering to vote at the Indiana Bureau of Motor Vehicles — manages to draw bipartisan support from prominent state officials.
But Julia Vaughn, leader of elections watchdog Common Cause Indiana, testifies that the BMV’s data is outdated and could ensnare naturalized citizens. Rep. J.D. Prescott, R-Union City, criticizes Vaughn’s description of her group as “nonpartisan,” claiming that 99% of its 2024 donations were to Democrats.
Vaughn interrupts him, voice wavering.
“Excuse me, representative, we don’t make campaign contributions, so I’m not quite sure who you are referring to. … Please don’t say things that simply aren’t true,” she asserts, prompting Prescott to reply, “I’m sorry — the employees.”
Vaughn calls his accusation “really unfair,” while Rep. Cherrish Pryor, D-Indianapolis, says it “was very inappropriate” and that the committee should focus on the legislation.
“Duly noted,” says chair Rep. Tim Wesco, R-Osceola.
The committee unanimously agrees to advance it, then speeds through proposals dealing with ballot counter oaths and absentee ballot retractions in 30 minutes.
That involves the party-line defeat of edits from Rep. Sue Errington, D-Muncie, about names with special characters. The confused-looking committee is about to vote on the edits when the Election Division’s Democratic co-director walks to Errington and whispers in her ear.
Errington says she’s been informed that the Voting System Technical Oversight Program requested the changes.
“V-STOP has not contacted me at all about it,” Wesco remarks. “… Call the roll.”
10:48 — School transportation bill grinds traffic to a halt
The House Education Committee is still trudging along, but testimony gets heated for proposed amendments to Senate Bill 373. One would create an optional pilot for groups of traditional, charter and private schools to share facilities and transportation through a newly created local board. It would also establish an Indianapolis alliance to conduct a facilities study and create an implementation plan before 2026.
More than a dozen charter school families speak excitedly about efforts to expand busing, because most charters lack it. Among the supporters are several elementary schoolers, whose testimony — and fabulous reading skills — elicit compliments from lawmakers.
But Indiana School Boards Association leader Terry Spradlin diverges.
“This is an amendment that we’re struggling to understand the genesis of, the need of, the justification for,” he says. “We have clear lines of authority between the superintendent, the CFO and the school board. This is only going to blur the lines of local governance and lead to a lot of confusion about authority on tax levy dollars.”
The committee doesn’t vote on the final bill, leaving it on the agenda for next week.
11:02 — No limits on testimony in Health
Extensive committee questioning and lengthy testimony — 21 witnesses signed up — slows the Senate Health and Provider Services Committee to a crawl. Charbonneau urges self-imposed limits, saying he doesn’t want to set a timer.
“I implore you to please make your point,” Charbonneau says just before 11:30 a.m., with more testimony ahead.
The appeal doesn’t curb the drawn-out speeches and exchanges. Testimony doesn’t end until 12:19 p.m. and the committee still has three bills to go.
12:20 — A musical accompaniment
During a lunchtime worship hour, music from the adjoining meditation room bleeds into the ongoing Senate health committee meeting. Aides deliver water, coffee and soda to parched senators.
After Barrett’s first bill is finally voted out, his second flies by in less than 10 minutes despite a flurry of revisions. Barrett’s third and final bill concludes at 1:05 p.m.
But committee members must stay for one more measure — though both people who signed up to testify have already left. Members amend the last bill and adjourn at last. Lawmakers and lobbyists alike leave the room wearily, with little time to rest before the next round of committees.
1:30 — No rest for Sen. Liz Brown
Just a few minutes after leaving the health meeting on the fourth floor, Sen. Liz Brown promptly starts the 1:30 p.m. committee she chairs down in the basement: Senate Judiciary Committee. Members hear one bill to potentially add judicial officers to counties depending on caseloads.
Brown, R-Fort Wayne, invites Rep. Chris Jeter, R-Fishers, to speak on House Bill 1144 — saying he’s “looking so sharp in his spring blazer.”
Six proposed amendments are added. It’s passed on a 10-0 vote in under 30 minutes.
But there is more work to be done. Brown warns of a plan that could reallocate judges around the state based on population shifts. Counties with low caseloads might lose judicial officers. Stay tuned.
1:32 — ‘Fight Club’ hits the Statehouse
Back up on the Statehouse’s fourth floor, Sen. Ron Alting, R-Lafayette, gavels the Senate Public Policy Committee meeting into order. House Bill 1272, dealing with inactive state groups and inter-state compacts, gets amendments and a vote in five minutes flat.
Sen. Scott Baldwin, R-Noblesville, settles into the witness chair to introduce House Bill 1073, which would let the Indiana Gaming Commission regulate bare-knuckle fighting, boxing, wrestling and more. It’s amended and unanimously voted out within another five minutes.
“In the spirit of the bill … I’d like to challenge Sens. (Justin) Busch and Walker to a bare-knuckle fight here on the floor of the committee (room),” Baldwin says, in jest. Committee members jokingly make a motion and second it, before someone quips that they’d like to finish the meeting first.
Baldwin starts, “This bill is pretty simple, besides what’s about to happen to Walker —,”
“(Sen.) Kyle Walker (R-Indianapolis)!” interjects Sen. Greg Walker (R-Columbus). Both “Walkers” are on the same committee.
1:35 — A bipartisan agreement
The House Ways and Means Committee gets off to a slightly late start, with Chair Jeff Thompson holding his glass “penalty jar” aloft. He uses it to ensure lawmakers and the public mute their cell phones.
“We’re looking a little light, so feel free to leave your phones on,” the Lizton Republican wisecracks. The money is ultimately donated to charity.
Lawmakers speed through their seven-bill agenda, advancing four bills in just half an hour. Nearly every bill today is “amend and vote only” — no testimony.
Republicans traditionally bat down Democratic suggestions, but Thompson surprises some by accepting back-to-back amendments from Rep. Greg Porter on Senate Bill 516. One would require the Indiana Economic Development Corp. to notify the state budget committee before it buys land, while another would require that companies invite the entire committee on tours — not just GOP leadership.
Thompson asks if Porter will agree to incorporate the edits by consent.
“It gives my heart great joy,” the Indianapolis Democrat replies.
The committee holds one bill back for another week, and zips through another legislative effort from Rogers. She heads back to the education panel in time for another vote.
Thompson closes the meeting shortly after, but warns committee members, “Do not expect the meeting to be this short the next two weeks.”
2:40 p.m. — Party-line votes in education
“No” votes largely outweigh affirmative votes during the afternoon’s Senate education meeting.
Republican senators shoot down a slew of Democratic proposals offered on a school deregulation bill, including one requiring the Indiana education secretary to hold at least a bachelor’s degree. Another failed edit would have required the secretary to reside in Indiana.
Amendment discussion echoes a morning debate in the House Education Committee, when those members contemplated whether school superintendents should have to hold high-level academic degrees.
Senate committee amendments on a measure to bar transgender women from playing on collegiate women’s sports teams also fail along party lines.
Sen. Stacey Donato, R-Logansport, the bill’s sponsor, is polite — but brief — in the few remarks she makes in opposition to Democrats’ attempts to rollback the legislation.
“Thank you … but I just ask that this be defeated,” she says at multiple points in the discussion.
The ban moves on a party-line vote and heads for the Senate floor for further consideration.